Monitoring of Schools In KP, Pakistan
In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, a robust monitoring system to track progress in education sector has been established. This system would enable the GoKP to collect school based data every month and evaluate performance of key educational indicators of each district, total 25 districts in KP, Pakistan. 475 monitors have been rec recruited on contract basis to perform monitoring of schools and cover all 28,500 schools in the province. District & Monitoring Officers have also been placed in all districts to oversee the district monitoring unit.
GoKP has initiated Education Reform Roadmap to gradually improve education indicators in the province. each district will have a baseline for each indicator and target over the next 4-5 years. Baselines are being established, after which progress will be evaluated and shared with the GoKP for course correction.
One Year of Monitoring By IMU
Some success stories
One Year of Monitoring By IMU
Some success stories
• 310 Schools are now
open which were Non-functional
• Rationalization of staff has been
done in districts Upper Dir, Lower Dir and Lakki Marwat.
• DEO male initiated
show cause notices against 150 teachers and non teaching staff in Abbottabad.
• DEO female terminated
service of 1 teacher, 1 teacher resigned and show cause against 25 teachers in district
Abbottabad
• 40 show cause notices,
05 explanations, have been issued to absent staff in district Bunner.
• 04 removal from service
and 01 suspension of absent staff has been reported in district Bunner.
• 05 inquiries of absent
staff in district Bunner are in progress.
• One day salary of absent
teachers has been deducted in district Karak.
• 80 show cause notices
have been served to absent teachers district Kohistan.
• 60 teachers have
rendered their resignations in district Kohistan as they are either doing businesses or settled abroad.
• One day of salary has
been recovered from absent teachers in district Battagram.
• Illegally occupied schools
reported in district Kohat have been cleared as
per directives of concerned Deputy Commissioner of the district.
• Disciplinary actions have been
taken against absent staff in district Kohat and Hangu. Salaries up to 05 days have been deducted as well
One day Salary of 15 absent teachers has been deducted in
district Lakki Marwat.
Congratulation on completion of a one successful year.
186 comments:
Dear Sohail,
Many many congratualtions on establishment of successful system in KP.
Best wishes
Rehana
Sir there's some issue of taking mobile phone during rain.
1.protection from rain is difficult
2.for recording location we hav to stand under rain .
Your comments on this please.
In order to protect the phone please use it under a shade. Record location can be done under shade, like veranda etc.
ok sir.thanks
Sir
If a DCMA finds some crime type issues in a school that is not in his assigned premises, where shall he report?
Can he contact the concerned DCMA?
Frequently observed issues are:-
Morally or physically abuse/ s.exlotation.
use of school property in private.
And a school that collected a thousand rupees from each student for ARRANGEMENT OF UFMs in the matric exams from 72 students. (Local sources revealed)
Sure these are serious matters and the department needs to address all such things.
I would suggest you to report such matters to your respective DMOs. You need not to become party as this is not your mandate and you will have to avoid dragging yourself in such issues till the time government allows you. Department has already established a hotline for receiving such complaints. As far as school property use is concerned, plz report it in the relevant question in the monitoring form
Respected sir.
Can u kindly tell me is there any team that is visiting the schools to verify data collected by the monitors?
As many schools informed me that a girl from imu islamabad had visited the school.
There is no other staff except DCMAs from IMU monitoring the schools.
thank u sir for reply, i have another question that if a teacher has taken half leave nd when we arrived she is not in the school then how we should mark her, Sanc leave or unauthorized absent??
In case it is formally approved mark it as sanctioned. otherwise it is unauthorized leave.
Respected Sir,
Please ask the IT team to place the ODK IMU application on Google Play (Android store), so that it can easily be accessed in case of crash of the app or any other problem.
Best Regards!
Asalamualaikum...
Sir in the section of PTC account info there are two questions that are confusing...
1. balance available (as of today)
2. present balance in PTC bank account
now what is the difference between these two
Response to Majid Yaseen comment.
We have engaged IT firm and they are responsible for smooth operation of this system. However I will discuss with them this option as well
Response to Ms.Mehreen Khalid comment
You are right we need to have one question. Will change it soon
Asalamoalaikum:
Respected Sir,
If There is Some mistake unfortunately in the data send to IMU by a Monitor then what is the procedure to Make A Correction...
Be careful in future. Always review the form before sending/uploading it
Mr. Majid,
Discussed with It team. According to the IT team Google ODK Collect already available on play store.
THANK you very much sir....
One more question Sir...
Sir Middle and High and Higher Secondary Level schools are not under ADOs but still the ODK application doesn't proceed without entering the ADO name, Contact No. and Circle name though they have no circle office as no ADO. Please clarify.
Best Regards!
"EVERY LITTLE HELPS"
We will get it right.
Respected Sir
Is there any website from where we can see the uploaded data?
Regards
DCMA Charsadda
yes. We will share it with all of you after the formal inauguration of the monitoring system, IMU
Respected Sir
Any expected date of formal inauguration of IMU.?
Who will be the Chief guest.?
Will all monitors be called for this inauguration ceremony.?
Best Regards!
EVERY LITTLE HELPS
Assalamo alaikum
Respected Sir
Sometimes the the device gets hang while uploading and by refreshing the upload it use to remove all the finalized forms. Is it guaranteed that all of them shall be uploaded?
Ishtiaq Ali DCMA Mardan.
Inauguration of IMU
Chief Minister is expected to inaugurate IMU on April 5, 2014 in Peshawar. Because of shortage of space a few officials from districts will be invited by the IMU
In Case of a Technical problem please call Mr. Luqman at his cell number 0336 5556547
sir I visited some schools were the non teaching staff (chawkidar)were assigned the polio duty..is it allowed?
You need to see the orders by the competent authority. In case there is no such permission by the authority mark him as unauthorized absent
AoA sir,
I have few points relating to mobile app which need to be rectified.
1. In case of middle or high school there is no ADO and circle but form does not proceed further untill we feed 0 value to the ADO name, circle and 11 zeros for mobile number.
2. When we enter school codes few values should be auto filled i - e PK no, NA Number, UC name, UC number and circle office.
3 . When we enter data in enrolment attendance gap for middle, high or higher secondary it sdks to feed values from un un admit. For middle it should be from class 6 to 8, for high from 6 to 10 and for higher secondary from 6 to 12 and same should be for provision of free text books.
4. In PTC one question is asked twice. Balance available as of today should be replaced with balance available as of 30 June 2013.
Thanks and Regards
Muhammad Ikram Ul Haq
DCMA D.I.KHAN
1. In case of Middle, High and Higher secondary schools write the name of DEO.
2. When we will have collected all data of schools and are sure that is the correct one then you will not need to enter info which is constant
3.In this case write 0 where there is no enrollment and school starts from class 6.
4.It is actually " As of 30th June 2013"
Sir, I told in several school about principal and headmaster attendance register
BUT they said that we will act upon this order, when we we will get proper proper notification from government
so what should we do.
In case headteacher is absent, mark him as absent and vice versa. Ask them to maintain attendance register otherwise they will be not be treated present if they are not found in school
Respected sir
In some primary schools there are only two teachers
if one is on exam duty and the other teacher also have some emergency
then from whom we should get the required information?
And in such case students will also suffer
If the teachers are absent from school mark them as absent. Whatever the information is available write it down and for remaining data write "record not shown" Also write brief on the comment portion
Sir you are transforming education in Pakistan. Your achievement is too impressive. Sir I would love to learn from you.
Dear Syed Sohail Raza Sahib!
What a distinguished accomplishment! I just have one question. Why does this website want me to prove I am not a robot? It is making me nervous.
Anonymous.
please take selfies and upload as profile pictures
Impressive, keep it up.
Very impressive.
Very impressive.
Impressive
Sir
Is sport fund is included in ptc fund or not?
Sport funds are not part of PTC funds if it has a separate bank account. The rule is that whatever amount is in the PTC account belongs to PTC.
Respected sir
I Highly appreciate this work started by KP government
BUt one thing I want to notify is that
government want progress of public sector
but I think it is a very tough job
because most of the schools in our area don't have their own building
they don't have basic facilities
for six classes there are only two teachers
and one or two rooms
In short there are numerous problems in schools
although we're working very hard to tackle with them
but. ............ ........ God bless us
Monitoring system put in place is expected to improve efficient delivery of education services and strengthen informed decision making at provincial level. We all know that ground realities are different and there is much to do to improve the situation. This intervention is a first important step in the right direction. It would have far reaching implications on planning, resource allocations and improving governance at all levels.
The IMU is a much needed intervention to improve accountability and decision making. I wish all sectors would look into setting up similar units, for example the health sector and the law enforcement sector. You must suggest this to the CM of KP.
Sir is it necessary that every DCMA should visit the schools anywhere in District assigned by DMO. As some schools are easily accessible for one DCMA but not for the other?
Can one area be assigned twice to a DCMA (ie for two months)
Thank you sir for your kind words
may Allah bless us the power to bring a miraculous change and inshallah we will bring a change
and will throw away each black sheep from our each department
it will be quite great
if the next monitored department is health or law enforcement
thanks again Sir
I appreciate your commitment and concern for the very important cause." EDUCATION". Keep it up and let everyone realize the importance of this intervention in KP which would result in improved governance and better schools for the children of KP.
Respected sir,
When will be the formal inauguration of IMU?
And will DCMA'S be invited for that?
Sir in most high and higher secondary schools principal don't maintained their attendance so how to record their attendance and are they in category of teaching staff or non teaching??
Headteachers and principals are to be included in teaching strength in schools. Please ask them to start maintaining attendance registers. Also ask DMO to get some orders issued from the DEO concerned.
But sir
If you tell from your kind self to the respected DMO that they should mention about headmaster and principal attendance register to the district DEO. It will be quite great of you
Thanks
Respected sir
I have some questions regarding proforma in option number 34(furniture)
1. In the black or green board, wall boards are also included?
2. In the almirah, wall almirah are also included or not?
3. In some schools there are stools instead of chairs and there is no place for stools in the proforma?
Please reply sir
Asif imran
DCMA KARAK
Please include blackboards both on walls and stand. Also add both steel/wooden almirahs and fixed on walls. Stools are not included in the proforma. so only report on items which are included in the proforma.
One thing more
I.e. in some school
Some furniture is not in working condition
So we should write that furniture in the proforma?
Primary schools have no proper record of furniture
So we should write " record shown, Yes but incomplete" ?
if school incharge is on leave and other staff member is working as an incharge only on that particular day whom name should we write in the head of institution in the proforma.
Give details of the teacher who acts as headteacher on the day actual headteacher is absent from school
Sir kindly us regarding teachers guide as some teachers called guide to assessment diaries provided by GIZ and some said about academic guides
New teachers guides/lesson plans are still to be provided. You will start getting this information after they are supplied to schools. You don't need to record info on teachers'guides provided earlier.
Respected sir
I visited a higher secondary school
There, I found 11 SS (subject specialist) unauthorised absent and according to the principal, they have no duty manual. They come to school one day just for their attendance and leave the school
Principal is helpless regarding this
They have their own way of arrival and departure from the school
So please sir
If government should notify them strictly about their duty manual
Otherwise most of the students will suffer
As they are suffering now
And students will not come to government schools
Your reports will definitely improve the system and give evidence to the department to take appropriate actions against such teachers.
Respected sir
Some fake people are disgracing our department
They visit school and say that we're from monitoring
And talk rudely to the teachers
So what will be the action of our department regarding this?
Thanks
All monitors in KP have been given Identity Cards, issued by the IMU. In case of any doubt the fake monitors, if any be asked to show their IDs.
Sir some areas are too risky in a sense of militancy...isn't possible that first government proves his riat then send us??and if God forbidden any thing happened to any DCMA then who will be responsible??
Sir our Worthy DMO shb is forcing us to complete 70 schools in the on going month i.e April, though we have only 20 working days in this month as schools were closed in the first week of this month because of Spring vacations... Sir Don't you think it will badly impact the accuracy of the data as visits will be done in hurry....
AOA Sir..
is it possible for a female primary school to take their conditional grant from male ADOs?? why isn't this given to female ADOs or directly transferred to the school accounts? I visited a school whose conditional grant was to be taken from male ADO and the HT visited ADO twice but still didn't get her grant. construction work is pending in the school (GGPS Gari Maira-UC Ghazi, District Haripur)and the building is in miserable condition with poor basic facilities.
I will discus this issue with the department and soon let you know the response.
Sir
you r doing a great job,, we are getting alot of help from this post, our most of the issues resolve by reading ur comments.
Our DMO is very rude he never help us in resolving any issue nor guide us. he mis behaves. while you r so helpful. m really thankful to u.
Assalam o Alikum
Sir on which site we can see the datanuploaded by monitors ?
You will be able to see it soon.
Sir with due respect some higher secondary school's principals and S.S don't give any importance and respect to us they says that u r just an assistant and with no scale dont ask about everything just write whatever we says we r not cheaters and liers...sir we r govt employees although we r not permanent but still we should be treated in a respectful manner we feel insult by their rude behaviour. ...ur reply on this will be appreciated
Yes sir
He is totally right
They just laugh at monitors and IMU
They say that IMU is just an interesting joke
There will be no change
We will just enjoy salary without doing any duty
SS and principal sre mostly not doing their duty
They ask irrelevant and nasty questions to disturb and puzzle us
So please sir action must be taken
Otherwise our hard work will go in vain
Thanks
Dear DCMAz don't get dis heart with the mere jokes of HTz n PSHTz. Any one who tries to put you DOWN is surely BELOW you.
Go with new spirits and high morals & see how the green flag solutes you each morning.
You need not to let yourself feel low on these remarks. Your functions and role is entirely different from teachers. Good teachers deserve lot of respect and we all are indebted to our teachers who guided us and made us proud of what we are.
Your role and duty is to monitor and report whatever is happening in schools because GoKP is spending billions of rupees to make sure that the children gain from schools what they deserve.Your role is to support government achieve this important objective
Respected sir
Sir I have a problem
I and two other monitors applied for an account in national bank of Pakistan, Takhte nasrati branch since 24 February. But still our account is not verified. Some of our monitors applied for an account in NBP Karak branch and they got their accounts verified and got their salary.
But we are still waiting for our salary.
What should we do sir?
I have only 150 rupees in my pocket. I will have to borrow money from someone. Please sir do something for us
Thanks
Asif imran
DCMA
Karak
Keep this thing in mind that you are government employ and will have to follow government rules.
Sir what about Our April Salaries..?
Will we ever be Abled to receive our salaries on 1st of the month like other govt servants...?
sir if a teacher has a casual leave marked in attendance register,,,,but there is no application found,,,,can we mark it as 1 leave {record not shown}.
Slam to u sir, the DCMAs n all, as the provided data by the DCMAs is the real time factual data containing absentees and other serious information so need is to display data on official website but keeping names time month etc confidential to avoid creating rivalry to monitors.
Sir. .we want to provide fool proof evidence based data to the Higher management which could undoubtedly b utilised for accurate decision making . Therefore I would like to suggest that kindly include the 3 pictures space for the schools premises and one minute school video at the end of the data collection form that cent percent realistic view of the schools could easily be depicted along with collected data . This would provide a sound transparent real evidence based data in order to take corrective action and decision making. Hope. . These humble suggestions would be discussed and these crucial additions in the school data forms would be included in, with the assistance of software experts. Thanks. . Luv Islam and Luv Pakistan
Muhammad Sharafat sir yur suggestion reguarding pictures and video is worthy but the battery of the cell fon runs down much faster by the use of camera, GPS & mobile data at the same time. Even if we carry charger with us; we dnt get much time to recharge it.
I also think that although the idea is a good one but its not a practical one due to short battery timing, and it may also raise concerns in female schools.
In case there is no written record of approved leave he/she will be treated as on unauthorized absence.
As far as photo or video is concerned IMU intend to follow this practice in second phase after a thorough deliberations.
Respected Sir
I want to bring your attention to an important issue about free text books.
Firstly failed students don't receive new books and in some classes courses have been changed.
Secondly class K.G received less books than the actual enrolment.
Class nursery didn't receive books at all.
Thanks
Assalam-O-Alaikum !
Dera Sir, If a class 4 or a teacher comes at 10:00 am in the school and his signature also not present in the attendance register, we consider him late comer or absent?
The issue regarding Free Text Books is also here in Haripur. 5th class English text books and Maths Work books haven't been provided to any of the schools in district Haripur & teachers frequently ask me the question would they be provided any books? Sir kindly address this issue as the summer vecations are approaching and no action has yet been taken. ADOs call frequent meetings in circle schools but the issues has never been discussed.
Respected sir,
Some principals of high school and teachers feel insult by our physical check of them...how to verify their presence without physical check. ..
And if a teacher on any long leave either medical or earned and his approval is not available due to slow process in department so we will mark them absent???
Ur comment on it is vital for us
AOA.Sir,I want to share my observations during visits to different schools.sir enough of data has been collected till now ragarding stock ,PTC record and other records that do not change on monthly basis.The issue that needs attention is the teaching and learning process at schools.It is miserable.The situation may be a bit better but in rural areas the situation is pathetic.My humble request is that more stress should be laid upon academics.
Your observation regarding poor quality of education is valid. Lot of efforts, time and resources are required to improve quality of education. The first condition that needs to be met is that teacher is available in school and teaching school kids. The monitoring of schools ensure conditions that lead to a process of teaching-learning in classrooms.
As far as provision of free textbooks are concerned please ask your DMO to raise this issue in the District Steering Committee meeting.
Respected Sir,
I'm so sorry to share this bad News of Baseless allegations and Propaganda against IMU.
The link to the news is here:
http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102212261&Issue=NP_PEW&Date=20140514
Now we all DCMAs humbly request our Worthy PD to kindly respond immediately to these baseless allegations otherwise it will hurt our commitment,Dedication,enthusiasm of all sincere hard working DCMAs.
Thanks!
Propoganda against IMU.
Kindly respond to this negative news report.
http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102212261&Issue=NP_PEW&Date=20140514
I have forwarded this link to PD, IMU for his information and appropriate action. YOU need not to feel down as this is the beginning and you will have to prove your credibility and professionalism.
Hello,
Medium of instruction for 4th and 5th classes have been changed to English, majority of the teachers are ptc matric and they can't teach new syllabus. In most of the cases they are using old books in Urdu medium.... isn't it a policy failure and need to address .... ?
This issue has been pointed out in many schools ...
Hello,
As far as High School Staff's behavior is concerned, Its our own attitude which can make our prestige. No offence but some DCMAs don't focus on their look, dressing and attitude towards work. Respect is a two way process i-e Give and take. Be humble and talkative. Simply build your own prestige and respect....
Sir I have visited some female schools in remote villages of District Haripur where female schools are located away from populated area in lonely hills (i.e. ggps Chamiari; UC Khairbara, ggps Ghalam; UC Pind Kamal Khan, ggps Bail; UC Sirikot) and also the posts of gatekeepers are vacant there. who so ever is transferred in these schools, soon transfer them to other schools. The reason behind this is insecurity and difficult access.
many teachers requested to exchange the school buildings of female schools with male schools of the same villages which are in easy access and are within populated area.
Sir kindly tell us weather it is possible to exchange buildings?? if yes than what is the procedure for it??
Sir another issue is that in GGMS Bail, UC sirikot (EMIS:37184), classes for 9th and 10th grade students enrolled under GGHSS Sirikot,UC Sirikot (EMIS:36308) are arranged for their convenience. Sanctioned teachers of GGHSS Sirikot are also present here. But there is no attendance record of these teachers in GGHSS Sirikot. GGMS Bail also don't own this staff.As per rule if we don't find teacher at physically present at school, we mark them absent or on leave (according to information available). We cant even mark them present under proforma of GGMS Bail as they don't belong to this school.
Also it is not possible for the monitor to visit both these schools in a single go as they are located at distance from eachother.
Kindly suggest a convinent way of monitoring thses clases and staff..
Aoa sir
Today I visited primary schools in Takht bhai district mardan.there teachers had a complaint regarding provision of free teacher guides.as textbooks of maths ,general science and few other subjects in primary schools are in english medium now, still elementary and secondary education department has sent urdu medium teacher guides of those subjects.please ask concerned officers to rectify this issue.
Thanks.
As far as medium of instruction is concerned, everybody in the department knows that it would be difficult for the existing teachers to deliver lectures and teach subjects in English. Training of teachers is being planned to address the issue to a certain level.
Dear Farrukh you are right. Your attitude and manners have lot to do with the degree of respect one receives.
The problem with the location of school is very serious. Government opens schools on donated lands and normally people donate such land which is is inexpensive and far from the village. Once we have all the data available on such schools then the department will definitely do something to resolve these issues.
You keep on sending data as per the physical situation and situation on ground. If the second school falls within the list of schools you are visiting then do visit the school and see the situation yourself. But again we have to report based on physical verification.
Dear Junaid,
I will discuss this issue with the concerned officer of the department.
Dear sir,
We are facing problem to find school location in rural areas. Most of the villages are located in almost isolated areas and we don't find a single person to get directions. I believe all the schools have been visited at least once. Location taken by GPS can b used to tag school's exact location on Google maps. Thus monitor can get help to locate schools while visiting first time in that area.
This is good proposal. You can also do that all monitors whatever school they visit should make a map for facilitation of the other monitors. Now almost all schools have been visited by the monitors and it can be done easily.
http://www.dailymashriq.com.pk/index.php?date=2014-05-23&edition=&type=
Dear Sir
IMU should respond to this negative and baseless news about monitoring system which are published in Daily Mashriq 23/5/2014.
This propaganda will die down once people started realizing the importance and usefulness of this monitoring system.
There are some un-official statements and news in papers that Monitoring of some others department esp. Health is to be handed over to IMU. Is it true or only a rumor?
almost everyday news are given against IMU in the newspapers.
here is one such link.
http://dailymashriq.com.pk/index.php?edition=&date=&page=5&type=
why IMU is not responding to these news ?
@Samiullah, i think hey are not handing it over to the ESED IMU b/c our health minister had earlier announced that they are going to establish an independent monitoring unit for monitoring hospitals on the pattern of ESED IMU. In today's Daily Mashriq, too, there is s news about the proposed imu.
Respected sir
Most of the DCMA are confused in option no. 27 that what should they write in the DUTY i.e. While writing the last calendar month record of the absent teacher
They got confused that what should they write in DUTY?
They have two ideas in their mind
1. Either the total days ofexam duty or any other duty a teacher has performed?
2. Or the normal duty days a teacher is performing in his own school?
Reply please
Thanks
On Duty means any duty the teachers are performing outside the school, other than teaching the students. For example teacher is assigned or performing exam duty, polio duty etc.
Salam! sir
Sir when Computerized Motor cycle Registeration Numberz will be issued to the DCMAs...? As some of the DCMAs are facing problems due to tight security in some areas..
Thanx!
Thnks GOD we are not dependent on IMU for Oxygen. Otherwise it wud have been stopped in vecations. Our phone billz haven't been paid n mobile sevice is bloked. we don't even expect our monthly pays in the upcoming months. Proud to be the KPK govt employees!! Hats off IMU. we solute you for the mindblowing summer package.!!We are impressed. THANK YOU SO MUCH INDEPENDENT MONITORING UNIT!
Well said. Add a THANK U from my side too.
Hello everyone!
I believe all of you have received their salary of June with special Ramadan package. I don't know what are the policies of IMU for their employees but I can see that they are not very much helpful. How can you deduct 5000 rupees at once in the name of insurance without even providing us details. Bikes of some of our fellow DCMAs were damaged and they paid for repairs by themselves,then what is this insurance for ? And if this is so important then you should have deducted small amount monthly instead of this big injection.
It's not insurance amount which they have deducted, but mobility allowance,and be ready for the deduction of 10,000 from the next month....
WoW. Bravo to IMU! Our salaries for the month of July have been deposited in our accounts before Eid. Thank you for that.
But wait!!!!!
GUYS check your salaries.
IMU has deducted its Eidi from our salaries. Only 25000/- for the month of July!!!! Advance Eid Mubarak! IMU sucks!
sir, what about deduction of salary for the month of july despite we have been visited food shops for the whole month even on sundays?
is there any inst where even sundays vacations are not given? this is cruel from imu thats why people are leaving imu.
I am a dcma from abtbd. our dmo sb asked to provide him the list of each day of the month which school to visit on what day prior to that month. it is very difficult and impossible as dcma decides her/him self which school to visit on that day according to rain/weather/ accessibility / distance of schools issues.
pls cosult the higher authorities to stop him from that. more over he is not visiting far schools as his responsibility to visit 20 schools from the district. he only visits 4 schools of main city only. he is troubling us to make his own duties easier. this issue needs to be addressed
Dear All,
I fully understand your concerns and dedication towards this great task. You need to be very positive and constructive. your valued comments and practical knowledge of the schooling system in KP will help all us to understand the ground realities and make improvements to a level which the system allows us. I request you all to share your unique experiences and suggest ways as to how things can be improved. I assure you your that the rich experience you are having right now will help you in future to understand and see things in different ways
Thanks for morale boosting comment.. Its motivational indeed..:-)
Dear Sir
Hope u had a wonderful eid.........
I have a question regarding our workplan.
in the orientation session and training's by you it was told us that our all visits would be confidential only we would be knowing about our daily visits so as to make the monitoring more effective.
Now my question is:
WHY IS DMO ABBOTTABAD ASKING US FOR A PREPLANNED WORKING PLAN FOR THE WHOLE MONTH?
I think it is totally against the guidelines of the project and will make our visits open to every one.
Dear,
You all are Government employees and are required to follow Government instructions. I am here to guide you and provide technical/professional support. Please don't expect any comment from me relating to your administrative issues. Your first contact in the district is your DMO and then Director, IMU at the provincial level.
Salam!
Dear All DCMAs
Following are the contact details of Worthy Project Director
Independent Monitoring Unit (IMU)
Elementary and Secondary Education Department Khyber Pukntunkhwa. Contact him directly, if you people have any issues with respected DMOs.
Name: Mr. Ikram Ullah Khan
Mobile# 0344-8333111
Email ID: markikhan@yahoo.com
Thanks and stay blessed
Respected SIR!
The IMU - SCHOOL SURVEY FORM have following deficiencies need to be modified.
1)The FORM contains old information regarding PTC I.e 2013 - 14 financial year.
2) There no option for closed schools during vacations I.e summer or winter
Yes you are right. Will change it after reopening of schools in September
Slam to u sir , DCMAs n all, some discouraging comments/remarks now have regularly bn reported from schools teachers especially are...
1.. u monitors r contract employees n soon it is going to end. .
2.. No action or improvement we have observed as we think u people hv no authority.
3..Imran khan. PTI and u all are inter related. . Bcz PTI is at mighty protest against Fed GOVT. . Ur future along with GOVT of KPK looks to be finished/ended?
. Sir .. do realise the worth of people 465 whom NTS and IMU selected from a hundred thousands people .. kindly step forward to make IMU permanent GOVT part or try to declear it autonomous body as NAB etc that v could work with confidence and enthusiastically. Kind raise this issue at proper forum as all DCMAs rightly deserve this. Thanks alot
Dear All,
I would just like to inform that the work you are doing is fantastic and is being appreciated by all including the Chief Minster. You need not to feel discouraged by negative remarks. Keep doing your work with all your sincere efforts and professional integrity.
Asslamoalaikum Sir,
IMU has hired highly qualified, intelligent and almost toppers of the universities. As per my observation all guys and girls are working very honestly with dedication and commitment. Its very hard to fulfill duties in far flung and hard areas. Myself and many of my colleagues got injured many times from bike which in future can cause any serious matter i-e we have serious issues regarding our safety and security as well. However, there is concern regarding future of IMU and ourselves. Though organizations work even people leave. However, layoff of trained and experienced staff does matter. Summing it up I'd like to ask what are the probabilities of IMU to be a permanent department. We are committed to our job but looking at the difficulties and hardships of job, its questionable regarding future. Hope your answer would be satisfying....
Assalam. O. Alykum Sir,
Mashallah we all monitors are working sincerely an devotedly. But we are not appreciated by teachers and DEO/SDO/ADO. teachers laugh at us because they say that IMU can dodo nothing. Now the change we have brought is going to diminish gradually because IMU has taken no action and we monitors have no authority.
So what will be the future of Imu. ?
Teachers will get frightened
If imu take any action and we are given some authorities
So sir please forward our suggestions to higher authorities. ..Thanks
You all are energetic young people. Most of you have just started practical life and have ambitions to try to correct whatever you think are wrong. This is great and we all have to think the same way.
IMU is a practical step of the KP government to address issues in the education sector. Lot of necessary steps are in the process of implementation and are leading to improvement. Please keep doing good work. Your hard work and efforts will definitely result in a better change and permanent IMU.
Respected Sir
Is there any website from where we Monitors can access and see the uploaded data...?
Regards!
DCMA Lakki Marwat
"Every Little Helps"
Dear so far as I know, there is no such website available for the public.Though IMU had initially stated that they would launch a website for this purpose, but I guess they have changed that plan.
There is only a live dashboard displaying the uploaded data which is available only to IMU officials atm.
Bro I'm not asking for public but for Monitors....:)
Sir, ak dil ki bat btaon. Aj English likhny ka b g nh chah rha. Ap ny aj tk koe gud news jo nh sunae jo hm khush ho sakain?? Z there annnnyyy gud news that v could feel better n take a sigh of relief.
Sir kindly take feedback from monitors about Their Respected DMO's. We all monitors are facing bad attitude from DMO's. Also they are non-cooperative.
Especially in some cases we need their help like in some school the teachers misbehaved us and didnt give us the Data but we get zero support from DMO's in this regard.
Now we think that imu dont/will not support us.
To be honest We need NTS qualified on merit Selected DMO's like Health IMU is doing.
Sir kindly forward this msg to PD imu if possible.
Have heard very good news from districts. Over 80 teachers resigned from service in district Kohistan for fear of being caught by the Monitors. Over 1 million rupees recovered from female teachers for being on unauthorized leave in district Abbottabad. Many closed schools started functioning because of the monitoring. Proxy teachers identified in almost all districts. These are all great news. Keep it up. IMU is the flagship programme of GoKP and we all are proud of being part of this refor initiative. People at the highest level are well aware of the achievements you ppl have made. Let me congratulate you all for the good work you are doing. See you all very soon.
Salam! sir, Why we monitorz have no access to IMU Survey Dashboard....? Any Reason?
Respected sir
I have some questions
1. In some schools drinking water is salty....so what should we write that water is available or not. ?
2. In some schools toilets are available fully functional but due to water unavailability, they are not used...si what should we write that they are functional or not. .?
3. In most of the schools, some furniture are non functional, so whether we should write them in the furniture or not. ..? Or we should write only functional furniture. ..?
4. In some schools, water are made available through water tank filling. ...so what should we write that water is available or not..?
5.some schools building are partly cracked (not due to earthquake)...so what should we write that building is available or not. ..?
I would be thankful for your kind Reply. ....
Asif imran DCMA
My response to the queries raised is as follows;
1: In case the majority of the people living in that area drink salty water then it would be considered as provided.
2:If the toilets are not being used it would be considered not functional.
3:Give details of only usable furniture.
4: in this case water is available provided it is meeting the school requirements.
5:Building is there but dangerous. give your comments in comments space.
Sir in survey form there should also the categories of permanently absent staff or habitually absent staff
In training u told us that no one can mark here s leave himself but in all high schools the head masters write in the order book and mark them on leave in register when they leave the school they dont approve their leave from DEO .they say that this is the rule for our leave which u dont know
Aoa,
Sir kindly include in the form that head teacher or incharge are willing to give the data. Because this issue is increasing and many head teacher refuse to give data.
2. Also included option that ptc account is functional or not because many school ptc account is nonfunctional
3. Also include option for staff behaviour with monitor I.e good/satisfactory/bad
Sir I want to clarify something,
Is Saturday a working day for us or is it a holiday? because some one from IMU staff told us that Saturday is also a working day and your salaries will be deducted if you will not work on Saturdays. Sir this is a serious issue as no one can work in field for six straight days, after so much hard work our bodies need rest for atleast two days. I remember you told us during training that saturday is a holiday and when I quoted you infront of that particular IMU person he asked me "who is sohail raza?"
secondly IMU has started deducting random amount from our salaries every month, they do not provide us pay slip. If they deduct salaries for absentees then they must have informed us before because as our job is in field we were not aware about the procedure of leave from job and we were not told by anyone, now they have started deduction and on inquiring they say it is due to absentees. i hope you will do your part if you can, to solve these problems.
regards
The simple role is that when the schools are open it is a working day for the monitors.
PLEASE refer you all administrative issues for guidance to your respective DMOs or the Director, IMU. I will keep on providing you all help and assistance if the issue is of technical nature.
With due respect sir IMU losing its efficiency by putting so much stress on monitors as we are facing serious issues in remote areas but still with dedication we are performing our duty
unfortunately IMU administration don't trust on dcmas as they making hard for dcmas by revisits and daily basis monitoring the actual thing is effective monitoring of school and it only can be achieved by letting monitor relax qhile monitoring as DFID is the financial partners so u should help us in this regard by discussion with IMU
Dear Sir, in some schools teachers have cashed all the money in the PTC account but not spent all of it yet. So the bank balance is zero but they have some cash left with them and are planning to spend it. I think a field for "Cash in Hand" should be added to the PTC account section in the digital performa for the remaining cash. It will make it more accurate.
Dear all,
We will discuss all these scenarios in future training programmes I am planing in the month of December onward.
Assalam. O. Alykum, Dear sir, how are you?
I have some issues
1 . what are the duty timing for school Chawkidar because head of the schools mostly says that they perform their duty at night. if such as the case, then what should we write him in remarks for today I.e. absent, leave, duty or other
2. In some male schools, there are female Chawkidar and she is mostly absent and his father or brother is performing her duty. .then what should we do with her. .similar is the case with some male Chawkidar also because his son is performing his duty. ..Please guide us in this regard.
3. What about the IDPs. ..should we include them in enrolment?
4 . Most of the DCMA do not write wall black board and wall cupboard in furniture. ..so there will be difference in data..Please guide all DCMA
4. Most of the principal and headmaster don't mark their attendance. ..only write order book and enjoy number of holidays. .and we don't have their previous record in the attendance register. .so please do something regarding this
5.SS (subject specialist ) are not completing their duty timing. .they leave school before time and come to school late.
They say that we are not afraid of monitoring and even we don't fear secretary of education. .we will do our duty according to our own will. .we found them habitually absent but no action id still taken against them...why. ..?
Good. Let me discuss all these issues with the Department. I will come back soon on this issue
Aoa, with due respect sir imu give us extra task on 15 and 16 September. We were told that ectra money will be given for this task but we don't get any money..Sir kindly investigate the matter as we visited markets on Sunday also..
second we DCMAs should unite against monster PD .... as they consider DCMAs their god gifted servants and they can implement any rules on them... rep if agree with me....
imu only monitor poor DCMAs not the schools it self...
mr PD IMU if u r so efficient then why any proxy teachers not removed as we report them again and again. ...
2-day orientation workshops for district education staff of districts Peshawar, Mardan, Manshera and Abbottabad were held to familiarize DEOs, SDEOs and ASDEOs with how the IMU collects data, indicators on which it collects data, and the types of reports it generates. The key objective of the workshops was to enhance the capacity of the district education managers to access and use IMU data for district planning and coarse correction. Initially five districts have been selected as pilot for this activity. It has been noticed that most of the district education managers are not fully aware of the IMU role and its functions. The workshop will help us to make further improvement in the system
Dear All,
Wishing you a happy, prosperous, bright, shining, colourful, lovely, caring new year and dua for your health and happiness for the entire family.
Dear Sir is it true that the project will be finished at the end of the January or fabruary of 2015. ? according to some DCMAs and Facebook comments that the project will be finished by the end of January 2015.
There is no decision on it. you dont have to rely on whatever is not authentic.
Hi
Sir can u pls guide why we are assigned snaps of stray dogs price lists etc
we are employees of education department. These tasks should be assigned to the relevant deptt
Please sir change your picture. You don't look like this picture now
Asslamoalaikum
is there any update regarding contract renewal
You will get your renewed contract soon.
Congratulation
Government of KP and the Education Department including Education Minister are very happy and satisfied with the performance and credible reporting of IMU monitors. You all have proved your worth and professional competence by doing great job. Congratulation and very good wishes on completion of one successful year of IMU.
I am sure you will continue working with professional commitment and honesty.
thanks for appreciation I hope this would result in regularization of IMU and its staff
Since we installed z tracker, our cell phone battery gives only 2 to 3 hours. pls suggest alternative. As per my suggestion Every DCMA would be pleased with a new phone from deptt :)
hi,
sir, why mba/msc-eco/stat degree holder monitors are being asked
we are curious to know
thanks
Dear no need to be curious on this.
Sir will the odk proforma be updated or not?
Salam sir. Male monitors are visiting in female schools in haripur district without any authority letters. Why govt isnot sending female monitors. We female teachers of nara amazai and baitgali strongly condemn this act by pti govt in haripur district. If female monitors cannot visit hard area how can imu ask us about our attendence. I hope you will solve this issue and will send only female monitors in female schools.
This is true for most of the districts of KP.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-314320-Monitoring-education
This Link is true for most of the districts of KP.
UK Government has been advised to learn from KP experience of monitoring of schools in real time basis.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/stand-and-deliver-review-of-michael-barbers-how-to-run-a-government/
hello sir...
being dcma can we attest documents
No. you are not authorize to attest the docs.
Sir AOA it is great achievement but it can make more improvable and better if awareness can create in villager people. Because most of teacher are not present village school of district abbottabad and came when monitoring team arrive. People have to support IMU team for prompt intimation of absent teacher if any contract source may available to contact Independent Monitoring team so may publish any contact source for early information against the defalter
You are right. We will have to create this awareness that monitoring of schools is ultimately going to improve schools and children attending these schools. This will take time and we all have to work wherever we think we can make difference,
Dear Sir, although in our order letters, it has been mentioned that the post ( of DCMA or Computer Operator) is non transferable, yet is it possible, that I am transferred to another office/district?
Thank you.
This is an administrative issue and is to be dealt by the IMU
Respected sir,
I recently resigned as DCMA. Is it possible to own my bike by paying remaining installments.
Please discuss this with your DMO
Sir I am Muhammad Shoaib (DCMA) from District Haripur. IMU is emerging as the most successful Project in KP especially in education sector. It brought a real change in the Education sector and continuing its success day by day, Sometimes, I recall the time 1.5 year ago when monitoring started in March 2014, the condition of schools was very bad, there were a lot of schools which were non-functional, 100s of schools which were closed from a long time, and lot of other problems in the schools which we found, and corrected after our reports, I feel myself a well-wisher of the child of poor that are being taught in the Govt schools, as my Father has retired from Education Department and served 42 years in Edu department, above 12 years as an ADEO, These are my father’s Words “we tried our best with honesty to change the conditions of the schools but we could not bring as much changes in 12 years as IMU brought in one year”. It is just because of you Sir, as we (all the monitors)are inspired by your guideline, skills, knowledge, experience, professionalism and friendly attitude, which gave us Strength, Confidence, Courage, Patience, Integrity, Commitment, Honesty, Self-Respect and Hope.
Keep doing the good work. It is satisfying that the efforts made by the team are achieving results. Lot more still is to be done to make things better.
dear sir no doubt in one and half year we achieved different indicators in terms of quantity, but quality is left behind. As dear sir you have mentioned that we will include quality indicators in future but it didn't seems to happen. why?
sir for the new DCMAs their is no proper training system..........and no guide line on paper . there should be some rule book which define all the process thanx
We are working on it and will soon provide you some written material.
We are also working on as to how to assess learning outcomes.
A late comer teacher is considered to be absent or not according to rules plz guide in this regard bcz some teachers arrive the school after report has been sent and they become absent
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